SunnySurya
09-15 11:39 AM
I am with you and willing to share the cost.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
People, most of us here are just afraid that they will get red dots, be ridiculed for their beliefs. But the things is; If we don't fight for our rights, who will. We have to defend our place in the queue, which at the moment is at substantial risk.
I want everybody to get their GCs. but now interfiling/porting is hurting out position in the queue.
If you are not aware, a good bunch of EB3s are now trying to interfile & port their PDs which are between 2001 - 2005 to EB2.
This will potentially put tens of thousands of people in the EB2 queue before most people in EB2 who are waiting.
These people were not eligible for EB2 when they filed their own labor.. so they should NOT BE ALLOWED TO PORT THEIR OLD PDs. Sure EB3 can Interfile .. but you will get a new PD ... the date you interfile.
If we just keep looking... there will be a huge retrogression in EB2. And its not like these EB3 people will get through with the interfiling/porting. Most of them will be issued RFEs. Their labor apps will be audited and their primary EB3 apps will be cancelled. Infact, 85% of interfiling will never successfully make it through. And its not like it will help the EB3 brothers. That queue will still be long... because they are not going to withdraw their EB3 apps.
Also, while they will not succeed in interfiling/porting, they still will have their apps with USCIS and USCIS will sit on them before eventually issuing NOID. Sad part is they will count these when giving numbers to DOS for setting visa bulletins.
This PD porting is the last "not so ethical & legal" thing after labor substitution.. that we need to Put a cork on.
If we don't act now... then we can all expect to stay in AOS for the next 5 years. This holds for both EB2 and EB3.
I want everybody to get their GCs. I also am OK with the wait.
But anything that threatens my position in the queue is not acceptable.
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DSLStart
03-11 01:22 PM
Congratulations! Best luck for your journey to U.S. citizenship ;)
My application was finally approved yesterday after almost 7 years in queue. Here is the sequence of events right before the approval.
RFE email on 02/13/09
2nd Biometrics Notice received on 02/17/09
Lawyer receives RFE for EVL, EAD cards and Marriage Certificate on 02/24/09
Completed Code 3 Biometrics on 02/26/09
Soft LUD immediately after Biometrics on 02/26/09
USCIS receives RFE reply on 02/27/09, Hard LUD and email on the same day
Another soft LUD on 03/02/09
CPO email on 03/10/09
Welcome email on 03/10/09
My PD has been current for a long time, but my application had not been touched and then suddenly USCIS became a model of efficiency. I am sure they are opening applications and approving or RFE'ing all they can. Hang in there guys.
My application was finally approved yesterday after almost 7 years in queue. Here is the sequence of events right before the approval.
RFE email on 02/13/09
2nd Biometrics Notice received on 02/17/09
Lawyer receives RFE for EVL, EAD cards and Marriage Certificate on 02/24/09
Completed Code 3 Biometrics on 02/26/09
Soft LUD immediately after Biometrics on 02/26/09
USCIS receives RFE reply on 02/27/09, Hard LUD and email on the same day
Another soft LUD on 03/02/09
CPO email on 03/10/09
Welcome email on 03/10/09
My PD has been current for a long time, but my application had not been touched and then suddenly USCIS became a model of efficiency. I am sure they are opening applications and approving or RFE'ing all they can. Hang in there guys.
Libra
09-11 04:56 PM
thank you saikatmandal.
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PD_Dec2002
03-17 08:51 PM
Looks like IRS is not going to give us back 1200$ as part of the stimulus package,which they were planning to earlier.
Source > http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html
Basic Information on the Stimulus Payments
Updated March 14, 2008 — new 1040A-3 package
You've heard about it. Now find out how to get yours.
What is it? It's an economic stimulus payment that more than 130 million households will receive starting in May. It's not taxable, and it won't reduce your 2007 or 2008 refund or increase the amount you owe when you file your 2008 return.
Are you eligible? You're eligible if you have a valid Social Security Number (SSN) and show qualifying income of at least $3,000 on your federal tax return. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
Can you use an ITIN instead of an SSN? Taxpayers with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) instead of an SSN are not eligible to receive a stimulus payment. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
Not eligible at the current time? If your circumstances change and you become eligible after you file your 2007 federal tax return, you can always file an amended return using Form 1040X. If you're not eligible this year but you become eligible next year, you can claim the economic stimulus payment next year on your 2008 tax return.
A very cheap attempt at sensationalism, if that's what your intention was. But if you really are clueless about this issue, then here are the facts:
There are several thousands of H-1Bs and GC aspirants who have SSNs for themselves and their spouses. This stimulus package will give rebates to these thousands so long as their AGI allows for it. Also, all H-1Bs are eligible for their rebate since they would have SSNs. It is only when their non-working spouse (H-4) does not have a SSN that the H-1B holder becomes ineligible.
Thus, the title of your thread is misleading. Change the title to "No Stimulus Package to H-1Bs whose spouses do not have SSNs". And again, this is not targetting H-1Bs or GC aspirants. Any US resident without a SSN is ineligible for the stimulus package.
Regards,
Jayant
Source > http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=179211,00.html
Basic Information on the Stimulus Payments
Updated March 14, 2008 — new 1040A-3 package
You've heard about it. Now find out how to get yours.
What is it? It's an economic stimulus payment that more than 130 million households will receive starting in May. It's not taxable, and it won't reduce your 2007 or 2008 refund or increase the amount you owe when you file your 2008 return.
Are you eligible? You're eligible if you have a valid Social Security Number (SSN) and show qualifying income of at least $3,000 on your federal tax return. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
Can you use an ITIN instead of an SSN? Taxpayers with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) instead of an SSN are not eligible to receive a stimulus payment. Both people listed on a "married filing jointly" return must have valid SSNs to qualify for the payment — if only one has a valid SSN, neither can receive the payment.
Not eligible at the current time? If your circumstances change and you become eligible after you file your 2007 federal tax return, you can always file an amended return using Form 1040X. If you're not eligible this year but you become eligible next year, you can claim the economic stimulus payment next year on your 2008 tax return.
A very cheap attempt at sensationalism, if that's what your intention was. But if you really are clueless about this issue, then here are the facts:
There are several thousands of H-1Bs and GC aspirants who have SSNs for themselves and their spouses. This stimulus package will give rebates to these thousands so long as their AGI allows for it. Also, all H-1Bs are eligible for their rebate since they would have SSNs. It is only when their non-working spouse (H-4) does not have a SSN that the H-1B holder becomes ineligible.
Thus, the title of your thread is misleading. Change the title to "No Stimulus Package to H-1Bs whose spouses do not have SSNs". And again, this is not targetting H-1Bs or GC aspirants. Any US resident without a SSN is ineligible for the stimulus package.
Regards,
Jayant
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jimytomy
04-12 06:45 AM
How long it takes to get 140 approved in premium?
Officially 15 days. But according track itt website , it is taking at the most 8 or 9 days.
Officially 15 days. But according track itt website , it is taking at the most 8 or 9 days.
saimrathi
07-19 02:23 PM
Why dont you tell us when we will get the GC .. since you already knew what they were going to do about the July VB.. :rolleyes:
This is what I heared even before the flower campaigns started.
Originally Posted by prinive
it seems they are planning to honor the July VB and make chanes in Aug VB. So I guess they will accept the applications in July.
This is what I heared even before the flower campaigns started.
Originally Posted by prinive
it seems they are planning to honor the July VB and make chanes in Aug VB. So I guess they will accept the applications in July.
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09-13 12:02 PM
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Remember
ITS NOW OR NEVER
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ChainReaction
04-25 11:12 AM
Isn't that what senate is proposing forthe illegal that those who are inthe country for more than 5 yrs get special treatment compared to those who came 2yrs ago, so why that can't be applicable for Legal Immigrants?:rolleyes:
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laknar
09-11 07:27 PM
Cannot join the rally but contributed 100$. Go IV.
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senthil1
10-03 04:40 PM
Increasing green card numbers will resolve this problem also. For example doubling the Visa numbers will not have much impact when CIS wastes a few hundred or a few thousand Visa numbers. If Annual cap is 300k then also CIS may waste 5k Visa numbers every year on average. But without increasing gc numbers even full utilization of 140k Visa will not have any impact Indian PD as demand is high.
Last year they "wasted" about 10K visa numbers. It is absolutely up to them. However congress has authorized 140k a year and there are huge backlogs for AOS and CP. So when you put that together, leaving about 10K unapproved is clearly not enforcing congressional mandates. The ombudsman blasted them for this in his report, then we had the VB fiasco. None of this sounds like great management of the benefits. There clearly is room for improvement.
We (us and our employers) as the recipients of the benefits are complaining about this, and it is perfectly legitimate.
If any visa numbers are left unused, I definitely think we ought to take up this issue with congressional leaders like Zoe Lofgren. Even just a visa recapture legislation alone would help us tremendously until 2009(about the earliest they might get back to this issue more fully).
Last year they "wasted" about 10K visa numbers. It is absolutely up to them. However congress has authorized 140k a year and there are huge backlogs for AOS and CP. So when you put that together, leaving about 10K unapproved is clearly not enforcing congressional mandates. The ombudsman blasted them for this in his report, then we had the VB fiasco. None of this sounds like great management of the benefits. There clearly is room for improvement.
We (us and our employers) as the recipients of the benefits are complaining about this, and it is perfectly legitimate.
If any visa numbers are left unused, I definitely think we ought to take up this issue with congressional leaders like Zoe Lofgren. Even just a visa recapture legislation alone would help us tremendously until 2009(about the earliest they might get back to this issue more fully).
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pointlesswait
09-08 12:22 PM
why blame the RE developers..as long there are fools ready to throw away their money...they will always be ppl to gather it..
ppl who invest without proper R&D deserve to lose it....
On my recent visit to Bangalore, i got in touch with a real estate developer(who is also a far relative), here is what he told me. First thing any developer does is to put up a website with some pretty pictures of layout and details like floor plan, location etc. This is the first step in attracting NRI's, he told me when he talks to NRI's, the first question they ask is the URL of the project. No wonder, most of the RE developer in recent times have a website, some of the website are a joke with absolutely no details and the rosy pictures of moon, lakes, birds, parks etc :-))
80% of his customers are NRI's, 10% are local goonda's/politician and rest 10% are common people...I was surprised to hear that some NRI's have bought/booked plots just by looking at the website and remitting money from USA...what happened to old school days of personally visiting, checking paperwork,Vaastu, getting opinions of relatives/friends before buying anything...what is the hurry here is beyond me???
I feel, this whole RE market in INDIA is a scam where RE developers are playing a game and targetting NRI's who are easy a prey...
ppl who invest without proper R&D deserve to lose it....
On my recent visit to Bangalore, i got in touch with a real estate developer(who is also a far relative), here is what he told me. First thing any developer does is to put up a website with some pretty pictures of layout and details like floor plan, location etc. This is the first step in attracting NRI's, he told me when he talks to NRI's, the first question they ask is the URL of the project. No wonder, most of the RE developer in recent times have a website, some of the website are a joke with absolutely no details and the rosy pictures of moon, lakes, birds, parks etc :-))
80% of his customers are NRI's, 10% are local goonda's/politician and rest 10% are common people...I was surprised to hear that some NRI's have bought/booked plots just by looking at the website and remitting money from USA...what happened to old school days of personally visiting, checking paperwork,Vaastu, getting opinions of relatives/friends before buying anything...what is the hurry here is beyond me???
I feel, this whole RE market in INDIA is a scam where RE developers are playing a game and targetting NRI's who are easy a prey...
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ashutrip
06-17 02:02 PM
not sure why is this question imp , but it's nov 2006 .....
nov 2006 still pending!!!
Man, mine is march 2007.....guess I will miss the bus......cuz as per my lawyer dates will retrogress in october big time
nov 2006 still pending!!!
Man, mine is march 2007.....guess I will miss the bus......cuz as per my lawyer dates will retrogress in october big time
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chisinau
08-02 11:47 AM
Thanx, peyton sawyer!
What kind of phone do you mean? I'm going to use www.freecall.com. Calls from PC to all ground lines in the USA are free. Hope it will work... Calling from my country is very expensive. The phone number of NVS is - (603)3340700, am I correct?
What kind of phone do you mean? I'm going to use www.freecall.com. Calls from PC to all ground lines in the USA are free. Hope it will work... Calling from my country is very expensive. The phone number of NVS is - (603)3340700, am I correct?
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kumar1
08-20 11:28 PM
Missouri story - I was sent home by DMV office, reason, I was not carrying my latest Pay stubs. I hate these Midwestern states...they were sleeping before 9/11 and suddenly woke up and squeezed their asses. Can you imagine, ignorant DMV in Missouri gave me DL on B1/B2 visa in 2000? I showed them Passport as proof#1 and US visa as proof#2 and ignorant officer said...you are good to go! Now 7 years later, it is written in bold over there....
ONLY US CITIZENS walk away with DMV, rest everyone go through USCIS.
Just like in a desi shop in arm pit state New Jersey I saw this..."IN GOD WE TRUST, REST EVERYONE PAY CASH"
I knew I will have issues with DMV so I paid extra 1000 to get H1B premium and retained my privilege to drive. Believe me guys....this is America.....spend more...save more!
ONLY US CITIZENS walk away with DMV, rest everyone go through USCIS.
Just like in a desi shop in arm pit state New Jersey I saw this..."IN GOD WE TRUST, REST EVERYONE PAY CASH"
I knew I will have issues with DMV so I paid extra 1000 to get H1B premium and retained my privilege to drive. Believe me guys....this is America.....spend more...save more!
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manishs7
07-20 04:13 PM
i Will vote for his (MCcain) great great grandson when I get citizenship (and if I am alive)
Well this message should go out to immigrant American voters ..
Let's expose their real face...
Well this message should go out to immigrant American voters ..
Let's expose their real face...
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test101
07-05 04:08 PM
Please no web faxes.. if you want to do anythin fax you personal story.
personal stories and simple words are making effect more than standered fax.
personal stories and simple words are making effect more than standered fax.
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amitjoey
04-29 03:39 PM
We will start calling. Thanks. We should leave no stone unturned. No doubts. Just do it!!
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Administrator2
05-02 09:27 AM
Here is the information sent to IV by Research Program Manager at NEU
Thank you for sending excellent compilation of information on this subject. It is very helpful to understand the background of this issue.
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When Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act in January, anti-immigrant pressure groups, such as FAIR, cried foul. FAIR claimed that the Act would put funds into the hands of illegal immigrants. They therefore petitioned for an amendment that would exclude taxpayers who file with an ITIN, which according to FAIR included many illegal immigrants (sic).
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_mar08nl01?&printer_friendly=1
After FAIR�s concerns were aired in the US media, the Senate amended the Act to require valid Social Security numbers on all tax returns qualifying for the stimulus payment. Families who file jointly are excluded from ANY payment if one of the taxpayers on the form filed with an ITIN. As a result, thousands of Military families and an even larger number of legal US residents will receive no stimulus payment. Consider a report in a military newspaper about a family of five stationed overseas. The father is a foreign citizen who filed a joint return using an ITIN. Now the entire family will not receive the stimulus check, even though the mother (a US soldier) and her three children are US citizens.
http://www.military.com/news/article/itin-ineligible-for-special-rebate.html
In Japan, thousands of military families face the same situation.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/army_rebate_041408w/
The solution, according to some, is to amend the tax return and file separately. However, by excluding the ITIN holders from the tax return, the head of household must forgo claiming them as dependents. The end result has little or no benefit in most cases because to receive the stimulus payment, the taxpayer must agree to pay more in taxes.
Foreign born workers who live in the US are also affected. Many have lived in the US for years and have been dutifully paying taxes and contributing to the US economy. However, a large number have family members who do not have Visas that permit them to work (Laws that prevent dependents of immigrants from working in the US already places these families at an economic disadvantage). As a result, they are not eligible for a SSN and must file their tax returns using ITIN numbers. Even though these families are faced with the same challenges as their American born neighbors, they will receive no tax relief because of the ITIN exclusion.
The only way to get the stimulus payment is to obtain a Social Security Number for �non-work� purposes. The SSA may issue an SSN to an alien under the following provision:
20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3)
(i) You need a social security number to satisfy a Federal statute or regulation that requires you to have a social security number in order to receive a Federally-funded benefit to which you have otherwise established entitlement and you reside either in or outside the U.S.;
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0104.htm
The Social Security Administration is required by federal law to issue Social Security Numbers to legal aliens who require them to receive federally funded benefits under Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)(II) of the Social Security Act, which states that the Social Security Administration is required to assign an SSN to �any individual who is an applicant for or recipient of a benefit funded in whole or in part with Federal funds.�
Here are some links to documents from official Senate and House websites (senate.gov, house.gov), which refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit.
Lawmakers
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
�Residents of the U.S. territories will also receive the benefit.�
Johnny Isakson, United States Senator from Georgia
The benefit would phase out for single people earning more than $75,000 a year and married couples earning more than $150,000.
Johnson (GA04) | Press Release | Rep. Johnson Votes to Stimulate Economy
Americans who earned at least $3,000 in 2007 will receive the benefit, including Social Security recipients and 250,000 disabled veterans. Higher income taxpayers are not eligible and the relief phases out above incomes of $75,000 for a single earner and $150,000 for married couples.
Senator Robert Menendez | Newsroom
�Today's event is a chance to spread the word so that everyone is aware of the steps they need to take to receive this benefit.�
News | Senator Pete V. Domenici
This benefit would help an estimated 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans.
EconomicStimulus2008
The 2008 tax instructions will include a worksheet to help those who did not qualify for a payment or those who received a reduced amount determine if they can obtain a benefit when they file their 2008 tax returns next year.
Senate Finance Committee
020808 Econ Stim Staff Summary.pdf (application/pdf Object)
The amount of the credit is phased out at a rate of 5% of adjusted gross income beginning at $75,000 ($150,000 in the case of joint returns). Residents of the U.S. possessions will also receive the benefit�
The law also clearly states that qualified recipients of this benefit must have social security numbers to receive these funds. No other identification number is considered permissible. SEC. 6428 (h) (2) �Identification Number Requirement� states, �For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `valid identification number' means a social security number issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration. Such term shall not include a TIN issued by the Internal Revenue Service.�
According to SSA document 20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a �valid non-work purpose� results when the �law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement.�
The means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 is stated in SEC. 6428 (d) Limitation Based on Adjusted Gross Income.
The federal government has also defined H.R. 5140 as a form of financial relief to persons who fall within certain income categories. According to a Whitehouse publication explaining the means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, �This relief would be available to everyone with adjusted gross income less than $75,000 for singles and $150,000 for married couples filing jointly. It will be phased out for taxpayers above those income thresholds. Taxpayers may qualify by filing a tax return for 2007 and including a valid Social Security number on their tax return.� [Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Growth Package Will Help Protect Our Nation's Economic Health, Office of the Press Secretary, February 13, 2008, whitehouse.gov].
Lawmakers included the identification requirements to HR.5140 under the belief that all legal residents of the United States will hold Social Security numbers. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Commissioner of Social Security to �take affirmative measures to assure that social security account numbers will, to the maximum extent practicable, be assigned to all members of appropriate groups or categories of individuals by assigning such numbers� [Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)] and that all qualified individuals receive �financial relief� under H.R. 5140 according to the stated will and intention of the United States Congress and Senate (as described in the links above).
Thank you for sending excellent compilation of information on this subject. It is very helpful to understand the background of this issue.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
When Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act in January, anti-immigrant pressure groups, such as FAIR, cried foul. FAIR claimed that the Act would put funds into the hands of illegal immigrants. They therefore petitioned for an amendment that would exclude taxpayers who file with an ITIN, which according to FAIR included many illegal immigrants (sic).
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_mar08nl01?&printer_friendly=1
After FAIR�s concerns were aired in the US media, the Senate amended the Act to require valid Social Security numbers on all tax returns qualifying for the stimulus payment. Families who file jointly are excluded from ANY payment if one of the taxpayers on the form filed with an ITIN. As a result, thousands of Military families and an even larger number of legal US residents will receive no stimulus payment. Consider a report in a military newspaper about a family of five stationed overseas. The father is a foreign citizen who filed a joint return using an ITIN. Now the entire family will not receive the stimulus check, even though the mother (a US soldier) and her three children are US citizens.
http://www.military.com/news/article/itin-ineligible-for-special-rebate.html
In Japan, thousands of military families face the same situation.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/04/army_rebate_041408w/
The solution, according to some, is to amend the tax return and file separately. However, by excluding the ITIN holders from the tax return, the head of household must forgo claiming them as dependents. The end result has little or no benefit in most cases because to receive the stimulus payment, the taxpayer must agree to pay more in taxes.
Foreign born workers who live in the US are also affected. Many have lived in the US for years and have been dutifully paying taxes and contributing to the US economy. However, a large number have family members who do not have Visas that permit them to work (Laws that prevent dependents of immigrants from working in the US already places these families at an economic disadvantage). As a result, they are not eligible for a SSN and must file their tax returns using ITIN numbers. Even though these families are faced with the same challenges as their American born neighbors, they will receive no tax relief because of the ITIN exclusion.
The only way to get the stimulus payment is to obtain a Social Security Number for �non-work� purposes. The SSA may issue an SSN to an alien under the following provision:
20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3)
(i) You need a social security number to satisfy a Federal statute or regulation that requires you to have a social security number in order to receive a Federally-funded benefit to which you have otherwise established entitlement and you reside either in or outside the U.S.;
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/422/422-0104.htm
The Social Security Administration is required by federal law to issue Social Security Numbers to legal aliens who require them to receive federally funded benefits under Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)(II) of the Social Security Act, which states that the Social Security Administration is required to assign an SSN to �any individual who is an applicant for or recipient of a benefit funded in whole or in part with Federal funds.�
Here are some links to documents from official Senate and House websites (senate.gov, house.gov), which refer to the stimulus payment as a benefit.
Lawmakers
Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House
�Residents of the U.S. territories will also receive the benefit.�
Johnny Isakson, United States Senator from Georgia
The benefit would phase out for single people earning more than $75,000 a year and married couples earning more than $150,000.
Johnson (GA04) | Press Release | Rep. Johnson Votes to Stimulate Economy
Americans who earned at least $3,000 in 2007 will receive the benefit, including Social Security recipients and 250,000 disabled veterans. Higher income taxpayers are not eligible and the relief phases out above incomes of $75,000 for a single earner and $150,000 for married couples.
Senator Robert Menendez | Newsroom
�Today's event is a chance to spread the word so that everyone is aware of the steps they need to take to receive this benefit.�
News | Senator Pete V. Domenici
This benefit would help an estimated 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans.
EconomicStimulus2008
The 2008 tax instructions will include a worksheet to help those who did not qualify for a payment or those who received a reduced amount determine if they can obtain a benefit when they file their 2008 tax returns next year.
Senate Finance Committee
020808 Econ Stim Staff Summary.pdf (application/pdf Object)
The amount of the credit is phased out at a rate of 5% of adjusted gross income beginning at $75,000 ($150,000 in the case of joint returns). Residents of the U.S. possessions will also receive the benefit�
The law also clearly states that qualified recipients of this benefit must have social security numbers to receive these funds. No other identification number is considered permissible. SEC. 6428 (h) (2) �Identification Number Requirement� states, �For purposes of paragraph (1), the term `valid identification number' means a social security number issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration. Such term shall not include a TIN issued by the Internal Revenue Service.�
According to SSA document 20 CFR Part 422 [Reg. No. 22] RIN 0960-AF05 Evidence Requirements for Assignment of Social Security Numbers (SSNs); Assignment of SSNs for Nonwork Purposes, a �valid non-work purpose� results when the �law requires an alien who is legally in the U.S. to have an SSN in order to receive general public assistance benefits (i.e., a public benefit that is means-tested) to which the alien has established Entitlement.�
The means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 is stated in SEC. 6428 (d) Limitation Based on Adjusted Gross Income.
The federal government has also defined H.R. 5140 as a form of financial relief to persons who fall within certain income categories. According to a Whitehouse publication explaining the means-testing provision of H.R. 5140, �This relief would be available to everyone with adjusted gross income less than $75,000 for singles and $150,000 for married couples filing jointly. It will be phased out for taxpayers above those income thresholds. Taxpayers may qualify by filing a tax return for 2007 and including a valid Social Security number on their tax return.� [Fact Sheet: Bipartisan Growth Package Will Help Protect Our Nation's Economic Health, Office of the Press Secretary, February 13, 2008, whitehouse.gov].
Lawmakers included the identification requirements to HR.5140 under the belief that all legal residents of the United States will hold Social Security numbers. Therefore, it is incumbent upon the Commissioner of Social Security to �take affirmative measures to assure that social security account numbers will, to the maximum extent practicable, be assigned to all members of appropriate groups or categories of individuals by assigning such numbers� [Section 205(c)(2)(B)(i)] and that all qualified individuals receive �financial relief� under H.R. 5140 according to the stated will and intention of the United States Congress and Senate (as described in the links above).
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Ram_C
09-28 07:18 PM
Receipting people are not the ones adjudicating the cases. They are different people. So there is no used stopping the receipting.
If this news is true, then we can see "wild" approvals before the end of September. Some people with complete cases may overtake others.
Its already end of September, today is the last working day for the month of Sep and moreover do you think the IOs at USCIS are determined to allocate/ use all the visa numbers for this fiscal year??? HELL NO , they give a rat's a** about it and that is why we din't see any "wild" approvals.
If this news is true, then we can see "wild" approvals before the end of September. Some people with complete cases may overtake others.
Its already end of September, today is the last working day for the month of Sep and moreover do you think the IOs at USCIS are determined to allocate/ use all the visa numbers for this fiscal year??? HELL NO , they give a rat's a** about it and that is why we din't see any "wild" approvals.
crazyghoda
03-02 11:46 AM
... its just an acknowledgement of reality as it stands today.
Of late I have started reading forums at R2ICLUB - R2ICLUB - Articles Front Page (http://www.r2iclubforums.com/) to get an idea of what it would take to go back to India. My last trip home was quite an eyeopener. Bombay has really improved a lot from what I saw last year and that much progress in a year was quite simply - amazing. I am guessing other metros in India (Delhi, B'lore, Hyd) are moving even faster since they dont have the typical politics that plagues Maharashtra.
Am I going to pack my bags and move tomorrow? Definitely not. But I'll definitely throw feelers out and see what kind of position I can get back home.
Good luck to all - whether you stay here or decide to go back or move to Canada or UK or EU or ....
Of late I have started reading forums at R2ICLUB - R2ICLUB - Articles Front Page (http://www.r2iclubforums.com/) to get an idea of what it would take to go back to India. My last trip home was quite an eyeopener. Bombay has really improved a lot from what I saw last year and that much progress in a year was quite simply - amazing. I am guessing other metros in India (Delhi, B'lore, Hyd) are moving even faster since they dont have the typical politics that plagues Maharashtra.
Am I going to pack my bags and move tomorrow? Definitely not. But I'll definitely throw feelers out and see what kind of position I can get back home.
Good luck to all - whether you stay here or decide to go back or move to Canada or UK or EU or ....
amits
07-19 01:27 PM
Thanks espoir for your contribution!!
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
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Just Signed up for $100/month recurring contribution. upgrade from $20/month in addition to $300 one time contribution in june.
Really heartening to see more and people coming forward with contributions...
And seems like all the efforts we made did work. check this out:
Skilled Workers May See Green-Card Surge
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_068854.htm
Come on guys.. come forward to support IV. We need to keep the momentum up and make sure Lawmakers hear and work on our problems. This will definitely need lobbying, which needs money.
Every $ counts...
More
Just Signed up for $100/month recurring contribution. upgrade from $20/month in addition to $300 one time contribution in june.
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